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HP 8568B Spectrum Analyzer: a fair number of adjustments…. done.

Having the 8568B basically working again is great. Not so great were the correction coefficients, all seems to be a bit out of alignment.

Before alignment…. quite some deviations at 100 kHz, at the lower frequencies, and so on.
8568b corr coeff

This is the order of the coefficients:
8568Bcalerror

First, checked the log amp circuits, and all seems fine. No adjustment made.

The, some small tweeking of the A4A5 assy that controls the step gains.

Then, the major part, the xtal filters of board A4A7:
8568b a4a7 assy 85662-60004

Each of its crystals can be switched to 10-30-100-300-1kHz bandwidth, at virtually constant gain.
To do the alignment properly, each xtal has to be tuned separately, and some bypass networks are needed.

8568b bypass

8568b atx cable connector

The bypass network, a 2.8 Ohms resistor in series with a 47n ceramic cap – just use an old ATX power supply connector to get some suitable contacts. These come free of charge, whereas HP used to charge a dollar each, or more. Note that I did not have any 2.8 Ohms resistors at hand, so I used two 5R6 in parallel.

This is how it looks during the adjustment:
8568b a4a7 adjustment bypass

When all is done, the bandpass responses should be symmetrical, which they are, and the amplitude flat for all bandwidth. After running the calibration, these coefficients were found:
8568b final corr coeff

As you can see, it all looks great, except for the 10 Hz bandwidth. Carefully re-checked the aligment – 30-100-300-1000 is perfectly flat, but whatever I do, it seems A4A7 has extra loss when set to 10 Hz bandwidth. In priciple such situation can happen with misaligned crystals, or with some low-frequency issue of one of the amplifiers, which are rather unlikely. Maybe just some aged xtals? Will give it another try later, with flatness checks with some of the xtals bypassed, to see if the issue is caused by any particular of the stages. Found one of the 2.2 µF tantalum caps on the A4A7 to have high leakage current, replaced it, to no effect.

For now, it is good enough – specification at 10 Hz more relaxed anyway, and I never do 10 Hz bandwidth measurements without correction enabled, just considering that any modern analyzer basically relies on a good number of calibration and correction data stored somewhere in the instrument, and applied to all measurements.

HP 8568B Spectrum Analyzer: an amazing find, a few repairs, and a restored marvel of RF engineering

It appears that the US is a land of plenty when it comes to somewhat dated test equipment, otherwise, it would be hard to explain why someone would sell a 8568B analyzer, including a display unit, for just a few dollars. A great find!
In the as-received state, after removing the 8568B and the 85662A display unit from two huge boxes, it was starting up, but did not show any signal, and no annotations on the screen. The latter turned out to be a rather easy fix, a little defect in the intensity control circuit.

First step – adjusted all the CRT circuits, focus/intensity control circuits, and the analog/digital display scaling and stroke generator.
The CRT is of a quite amazing quality, not sure if it is the original CRT – it has a hand-written label sticking to it, which could indicate that it has been replaced at one point in time.

The major item, no signal (but a typical background noise trace) – this can be anything, but unless in cases of several neglect, it is hard to destroy the mixer or other hard to fix ciruits of the 8568B (typically, the attenuator, and the build-in limiter are absorbing any overload power).

Switching the input attenuator, some signal found at -70 dB attenuation! Strange, so there is something wrong with the attenuator.

Similar to the CRT, also the attenuator seems to have been replaced before:
8568b atten 5086-7815 70 db 24 v 4 ghz

8568b atten assy

Opening it up, with the necessary care, what a strange thing – the contacts are not making any contract… the screws indicate that someone has tried to fix it before, or maybe damaged these contact fingers, while trying to fix it.
8568b atten defective 2

This explains why only at the highest attenuation setting, there is a signal: the contacts work when pushed agains the 10-20-40 dB attenuator pads, but they don’t make contact with the pad bypass (“0 dB”).
8568b atten defective

Using some fine-tip tools, re-adjusted the contacts so that they close the by-pass of the attenuators.
8568b atten adjusted

Before re-assembly, make sure that there are no dust particles, and that the mating surfaces are perfectly clean. Best use a small, soft brush.
There is no need to over-tighten the screws. This attenator is the 4 GHz version, and not particularly critical. For the 22 GHz version, of same design, best check for SWR and insertion loss, and carefully tighten all screw with just enough torque to hold the assembly together.

Some checks, some adjustments – and the instrument passed the self-calibration with no issues. The coeffcients are not zero, but close enough, and cross check with a well-calibrated 8642B shows that the amplitude accuracy is perfectly fine, no issues with flatness, any of the attenuator settings, or when switching through the various bandwidths.
8568b corr coeff

Some of the other parts, the 1st LO – a YIG oscillator.
8568b yig

The reference, and OSC 49-61C, unfortunately, I can’t find any spec data for it, but appears to be a rather low phase noise oscillator, with more than adequate stability.
8568b ovenaire osc 49-61C

As a further note, should you be in the market for a 8568B or 8566B analyzer, make sure that it comes with the 85662-60093, 85662-60094 bus and interface cables.
8568b 85662-60094 85662-60093 cables
These cables don’t look like anything special, but are commonly sold for over USD 100 a piece, even in used condition. Often, the cables are lost when the instruments are put in storage, and auctioned later. Fortunatly, the current unit came with all the cables, even with a set of power cables!

A short glance on the main board, it is a marvel of engineering and a pleasure for the eye, all traces layed out by hand, fully gold plated, amazing quality and attention to detail. Might last another 100 years of 24/7 use.
8568b main board

HP 8569B Spectrum Analyzer: almost the same, not quite identical

It took the best part of two hours to find the reason for the mixed mode malfunction-the lacking sweep time denominator issue. By comparison of all 84 lines going from the main front panel assy no. 08565-60002 to the analyzer, found an issue with the J1-43 line, MNL SWP (manual sweep).

8565a j1-19 man swp8569b j1-43 mnl swp

Above, old version (08565-60002 A-1645-45), below new version (08565-60002 B-2430-53).

8565a old board
8565a new board

8565a front switch assy modified

8565a wire

No big deal, added a yellow wire, to connect the pushbutton contact to the J1-43 line.

8569b working

A quick test, and it is working just fine!

Now, the only thing remaining are the knobs, but this will have to wait a few more weeks.

H 8569B Spectrum Analyzer: some progress, and a few more items to fix

A brief summary of the somewhat tedious job of fixing the 8569B front controls, which are a great feat of engineering but the plastics are prone to aging:

First, replacing the gear, it is a 48-pitch, 48-tooth spur gear, glad that I had one spare, but they are still available:
8565a gear
8569b gear

Next step, some contact cleaning, using a soft eraser, and some isopropanol.
8569b cleaning contacts

The frequency control – for some reason, there are different versions around, one that has wires attached, and one the has pins – interestingly enough, the 8565a control fitted has wires, but the 8569b requires pins – also here, good to have a spare assembly around, with the pins…
8569b frequency control

Defective bias pot – also here, a spare fitted.
8569b bias pot

Some of the contact fingers broken off-also there were fixed, and everything put back together.
8569b back together

Finally, noticed that the 10 dB segment of the 70 dB input attenuator (5086-7365) is stuck. Nothing dramatic, just one of the little O-rings holding the contact actuators broken off, and parts of it stuck in the contact.
8569b 5086-7365

Finally, a quick test – everything seems to be working-
8569b display

-unfortunatly, still missing something – the sweep time indicator is not showing a time denominator (µs, ms, sec), and the analyzer remains in the digital mode for all sweep time settings – it should switch to mixed analog-digital mode (at the time the 8569b was designed, there was no easy way to run analog-to-digital converters any faster than a few kHz without causing exorbitant cost, so the 8569b uses the digital storage mode only at the slower sweeps).
8569b display missing

Remaining items:

(1) Identify the issue with the sweep time indicator and missing transition to mixed analog-digital mode. Maybe related to the 8565a control fitted to a 8569b? – Checked by substituting a control assy from a good 8565a – working just fine with the 8569b – accordingly, this is not the reason for the fault. There seems to be a defect on the main front panel board. Maybe a bad switch contact, or a broken trace. Will be quite a pain to test will all the cables, switches and screws.

(2) Manufacture the control knobs for the frequency-bandwidth-span-atten-ref level setting. These were missing and don’t have spares at hand/these wheels are getting brittle anyway. Will make a new set from aluminum alloy, during next stay, in Germany, the only place with access to adequate machine tools.

HP 8569B Spectrum Analyzer: working essentials

After two very busy weeks, finally, a chance to have a look at the 8569B analyzer (with the 8565A control). No display, no way to find out if at least the essential items are working – these include the input mixers, the YIG filter and oscillator, and other GHz frequency components.
First tests showed that the power supplys are all working and well adjusted; still no display.

Connected a scope to the rear panel output – sweep is working!

Some little repairs of the CRT section (nothing really interesting to write about) – look at this sight:

8569b working crt

Really great, a bright CRT, and well-focused. And, it is actually showing a signal – basically, a working unit. At least, a start. Now we just have to see how to get the controls fixed.

HP 8565A?? HP 8569B?? Spectrum Analyzer: a mixed box

For next to nothing, I got hold of a HP (Agilent, now: Keysight) 8565A 8569B mixed analyzer:

8569b front panel 2

8569b panel

As you can see, the main unit, including the CRT and electronics, is a 8569B, but someone fitted a (rather incomplete) 8565A control assembly. Not a big deal, normally, but the control assembly fitted here has virtually all the common defects: missing contact wipers, and missing/defective knobs.

Another common defect (can all be fixed):
8569b wheel

A quick test – the CRT seems to be working, albeit, it is now dark after a few minutes of operation – most likely, just a dead capacitor, but the CRT itself is definitely pretty good. Also the CPU seems to work just fine.

8569b yig

The unit has a lot of RF goodies, like a 22 GHz 3-stage YIG filter, a YIG oscillator, a 22 GHz mixer, various 22 Ghz coaxial relais – but with another parts unit already at hand, this unit seems to be to precious to scrap. Well, need to think about it, always wanted to provide an electronic replacement for the aging 8565A 8569A/B control assemblies. Maybe, a good project for next winter!

HPAK 8569A Microwave Spectrum Analyzer: some adjustments, an ultrastable 10 Volt reference, GPIB test- repair completed!

The manual for the 8569A describes a series of performance tests – not all of them were completed, but most. Fortunately, the IF chain doesn’t need adjustment. Still, it took nearly three hours to get the YTF tracking, the A/D converter/digital display section and other display related circuits adjusted. The log amplifier was carefully tested as well, all perfectly in tune.

The most amazing find – the internal 10.0 V reference was found at 10.00004 V. That’s +4 ppm – most likely, better than the voltmeter I am using to measure this.

The reference circuit, according to the datasheet, is uses a regular HP/RCA low noise opamp of the late 1970s (selected 741), and a +-10 ppm/K 1N827 temperature compensated zener. As it turns out – the actual part used is a 1826-1058, an OP-02 equivalent (0.65 µVpp noise, 8 µV/K drift), much better.
Resistors in blue frame are +-10 ppm/K tempco. Others are regular, +-100 ppm/K resistors.
The circuit layout – very much refined, a marvel of analog engineering – guard traces all around!

8569a 10 v reference circuit

It is run at exactly 7.44 mA, using the 10 V reference to set the diode current – to minimize the temperature coefficient. See this diagram from the 1N827 datasheet:
1n827 tempco vs zener current
Seems that after 34 years of aging, it is perfectly stable now.

Back-up of the internal EPROMs (4x 4 kbyte!) stored – just in case they fade out over time.

Last step – test of the GPIB functions – and, no issues at all.

Writing to the machine:

8569a hello world

And receiving plot data back (two signals, close to 100 MHz, -10 dB):
8569a plot

At its final place, for now, on top of a 3585A – total of almost 200 pounds of test equipment. Hope the bench won’t cave in.
8569a working

HPAK 8569A Microwave Spectrum Analyzer: tuning stabilizer/tickler repair

After fixing the display and front panel related issues (attenuator, “0 dB” indicator), the only major defect remaining so far is the tuning stabilizer circuit. Once the span is set to below 100 kHz, it is activated – and sets the unit to zero span, rather than the span selected, permanently. Only when the stabilizer is disabled (there is a button on the front panel), the span is back to normal.

The source of this issue – most likely, the A14 tuning stabilizer assembly. Switched the board (part number 08565-60018) with the identical board of a 8565A – and, as expected, the zero span issue is gone!!

Now, we just need to fix the board.

The description in the service manual is actually pretty clear – the circuit uses a 1 MHz harmonic sampler, to keep the frequency of the LO stable. The initial lock is achieved by setting the analyzer to zero span, finding a frequency close to 1 MHz that represents a lock point. This frequency is controlled by a voltage, and a very long lasting sample-and-hold is used, than employs a special construction of a HP reed relay, and a PE/PTFE(?) lowest leakage capacitor – the white coil in the front, left, and the the capacitor, front, right – in the middle, a PTFE isolated post, going to a FET gate.

8569a a14 assy 08565-60018

Certainly, a very special capacitor. Once this is achieved, error voltage of the sampler is used to steer the LO, and the analyzer is returned from zero to normal span mode.

The sequence of all these steps – controlled by a very interesting chain of transistors, resistors, and capacitors – nowadays, just a few lines of program code… but, nothing better than a handful of discrete high quality components.

The “control generator”, see schematic below – it is not controlling the sequence properly – and, again, a defective cap. 0.1 µF (!), tantalum – red frame; a few 100 Ohms – near short. No way that this can get charged, and let the sequence proceed.
08565-60018 control generator schematic

Replaced it, with a regular 0.1 µF cap (why did they use a tantalum??), and: A14 assy working again. 20 kHz span, 10 kHz resolution bandwidth. Working just fine – at all frequencies up to 20 GHz, the highest I can check here.

8569a working stabilizer 20 khz span 10 khz res bw

The black sheep (date code: 1980, week 7):

8565a a14 culprit

We can’t argue that they didn’t skim on parts – at the time, certainly, one of the best 0.1 µF tantalums available.
Parts list specifies 150D series, MIL–PRF–39003 mil-spec qualified high reliability hermetically sealed cap:

150d tantalum

HPAK 8569A Microwave Spectrum Analyzer: front panel repair/re-build

The easy of use by the three-knob operation mentioned before – it has a downside: a very complex front plate assembly. And this might be the reason why more modern units almost exclusively use single-axis rotary encoders, often only one single encoder to operate all functions, per unit. The multi-turn-coupled-limited-synchronized-geared movements, just too complex and too expensive, too heavy, too laborious to maintain.

The front panel controls – as delivered.
8569a front panel rhs as delivered

The 8569A, 8569B and 8565A all use very similar front assemblies – only seem to differ in the print and in the exact shade of the label colors. And these assemblies use plastic parts – knobs, wheels, and so on. After 30+ years, no wonder, aging has visible effect, and parts become brittle. Common defects are broken-off sliding contacts. Not a big thing, can be fixed (re-attach the contact with M1.2 screws).

The attenuator and “0 dB” warning indicator – these are located on the same rotary cam, same contact pair. And, you bet, the corresponding wiper contact – broken off-missing.

Well, having rebuild some of these assemblies for other repair jobs before – the only way to fix this will be to take the assembly apart, almost fully. Actually, if all screws are kept well-sorted, not really such a big effort as is sounds. Some hours, but then it will be working again.

8569a rebuilding the from assembly

In addition to just the repair, all contacts and surfaces were thoroughly cleaned, by various means: DeOxit D5, a good eraser, isopropyl alcohol. For the painted surfaces and parts, use 40-50% isopropyl alcohol only, and a rather soft or medium-hard brush, to avoid damage to the paintwork.

The replacement cam (on the right) has two wiper contacts, the defective part, only one – the plastic fingers holding it down became brittle, and it eventually broke off.

8569a attenuator selector cam

Here, the result: the rebuild assembly. From earlier repairs, the remaining contacts should last – somehow, no all are susceptible to breaking-off; or it is just the amount of use they get – at least, I have some units fixed with small screws holding down the contacts, and there have since been working better than before. Therefore, I am not too worried about more contacts failing in the near future.

8569a rebuild front panel assy

Note: as it turned out, also the 12 dB vernier attenuator encoder had a partially broken off contact – can be fixed with some epoxy glue, but I rather replaced the encoder, with a spare from the parts unit.

HPAK 8569A Microwave Spectrum Analyzer: display fix, A6 assembly

No display – this can be bad news, because spare CRTs are hard to come by. Let’s see what we can do here.

Overview of the assembly – red: XYZ driver boards; green: high voltage (and other supplies) for CRT; blue: digital circuits-video signal generator.
8569a display unit

The digital part and XYZ driver – seem to be fine, can get a nice video signal when probing around.

Well, the HV power supply – no signs of life. You can easy check, just switch off the unit – there are two neon bulbs that discharge the CRT – but in the current case, all remains dark.

Removed the HV power supply assembly (A6) – fuse is blown! A quick look at the schematic:

8569a partial schematic a6 assy

Only three options, either the 26 V filter, the transformer, or the Q1 driver transistor. Driver transistors are a common fault – high voltage transients can damage them. But, Q1 is testing fine.

The transformer, looking good.

The filter – well, there we go, a classic fault, a defective cap.

8569a hv power supply

This is a 50 µF, 50 V, Sprague (now: Vishay), 30D series. Date code: 1980, 26th week! “Made in USA”

8565 30d cap

This exact series – still available today, after nearly 35 years! These don’t fail so easily, but the A6 assembly, there will be some stress on these parts. The failed part is capacitor C2 – the part that is doing most of the filtering. Maybe it would be a good idea to put a 1 µF foil capacitor in parallel with the electrolytic caps, to absorb the spikes…

For the time being, just replaced the defective cap, and ordered some 105°C rated long-life caps. 30D series caps aren’t cheap. So I settled for a Kemet brand type. Will be good enough.

After some soldering, powered the thing on:
8569a working display

We have a working display!! And, it is actually a very good CRT – no signs of wear! Most likely, sitting in some lab at Iowa State University, as one of the labels on the case suggests, and then, stored away in a nasty shed or garage for years.

Now, repair can move forward – without a display, at would be only half as useful.

The culprit, and the dead fuse:
8569a hv pwr supply culprits