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HP (Agilent Keysight) 8970A Noise Figure Meter: getting started, Error E26

Gain and noise figure are criticial performance parameters for amplifier, mixers, and so on. In my lab, these parameters have so far been determined mostly to a qualitative (i.e., approximate) degree of accuracy, by using either general purpose equipment, or specially build test setups, for the microwave region. Such approach comes with a lot of time lost, difficulty, and lack of absolute measure. Time to improve the noise figure measurement capabilities.

Which instrument to take, well, there are a few options, mainly HP 8970A/8970B and Eaton/Ailtech/Maury (the 2075 model). Remarkably, the 2075 is actually superior the 8970x units, and also had a lower list price, considering that the HP 8970x sold for about USD 10k.
The downside of the 2075, and in particular the more advanced B and C models, there doesn’t seem to be any documentation around, no schematics could be found (if you have a service manual of an Eaton 2075B, or Maury 2075C, please let me know); for the HP 8970A, full manuals and several application notes are around.

As luck would have it, I recently found a unit on xbay, a 8970A, non-working condition, error E26. This error indicated that the IF attentuator calibration has been lost, typically, it is associated with a low battery of the non-volatile memory.

8970a error E26

Note the Keysight cal seal – the first one I have ever seen. To proceed with repair, this will be the first thing to be removed. Never mind!
8970a cal seal

There are multiple versions of the 8970A controller boards, earlier boards use a 3.6 V NiCd rechargeable battery, but these tend to leak, and are now no longer available. The unit I am dealing with has a more recent control boards, using a BR2325 Lithium cell (3.0 V).

8970a 2325 holder

Rather than dealing with BR2325 cells, decision was made to replace it with a more permanent solution, which might last 10 years, or longer. A 3.6 V Li-SOCl2 cell, of prime quality, SAFT, Made in France. These cells are of excellent quality, and have very small self discharge.

This is the battery, with some (transparent) heat shrink tubing around the leads.
8970a ls14500 battery

…a few minutes later, the battery fitted to the board.
8970a battey fitted

Note the “BR” rather than “CR” coin cell! CR uses Mn-oxide (MnO2) vs Li, whereas the BR type is using a carbonmonofluoride compound, it typically has lower capacity but better long-term performance, which is important for memory back-up applications, where self-dicharge is often more limiting than actual current drain.

br2325 li coin battery

8970a ls14500 li-socl2 battery

The new cell has 2.6 Ah capacity, 15 times more than the coin cell!

Having the battery replaced, now the tricky part. The actual attenuator calibration, to get the proper cal coefficients back into the 8970A. The calibration itself is just a matter of 1 or 2 seconds (initiated by special function SP 33.0), however, it requires a 346B noise source, with 15 ENR output, unfortunately, I don’t own any of these wonderfully noisy things.
Well, there is a work-around. Just push the green PRESET button, and connect a 30 MHz generator (adjustable down to -100 dBm) to the 8970A. Then, we need to adjust power to approximately equal 15 ENR in a 4 MHz bandwidth, the bandwidth of the 8970A.
15 ENR, that’s about 174 dBm/Hz+15 dB+10*log(4 MHz)=-93 dBm on the 30 MHz generator, to get the same total power into the 8970A detector, roughly. Using special function SP 9.2, the 8970A can actually measure absolute noise power, and the generator can be adjusted to result in a reading of about 15-16 dB (which is dB above a -174 dBm/Hz noise floor). Adjusted the generator to -95.5 dBm, which gave just about 15 dB.
Then, execute SP 33.0 to calibrate the attenuators, and all should be fine. In fact, it worked, and the unit is back alive.

8970a working

The inner construction, it is a thing a beauty, and a pleasure to the eye.
8970a top view

Note the wire above the input section resistor – is this for adjusting their parasitic properties? This I will need to put to a test later, using a few resistors, and measuring the SWR of such PI-type attenuators, with and without wires….
8970a input section

8970a last converter detector

The 1st LO, a YIG oscillator. The same as used in the 8558B spectrum analyzer!
8970a yig 5086-7080

8970a 1st and 2nd converter
… the 2nd converter is idential, or nearly (fully?) identical to the 2nd converter of th 8565A, 8569A, 8569B spectrum analyzer units (P/N 08565-60216, the A35 assembly of these analyzers). Another example of HP cleverly re-using some of their most ingenious designs.

The shielding of the 8970A assemblies, this seems to have been developed for the 8970 series exclusively, a cast aluminum body, separate, spring-contacted aluminum covers, and a more rugged overall cover with an elastomer/metal mesh seal in the corners to prevent any of the waves from escaping, and to ensure that no spurious signals are getting into the chain of modules. In the end, this is a highly sensitive receiver, working at the thermal noise level. So we don’t want any high-level radio stations radiating into there.
8970a shielding

HP 3326A Two Channel Synthesizer: finalization of repairs

The 3326A has been working for several days now, with no problem, but the current repairs were only temporary, with some parts that were at hand, but not quite up to the requirements.
Still, I didn’t have the service manual, and no luck on the internet, except for some companies that want to charge me 20 or even 50 USD, for a 30+ year old manual. Well, these manual dealers somehow have to make a living, but I have no dollars to give away, just to get some part numbers. After a few requests sent around to various people that might be proud owners of a 3326a service manual. Finally, some luck: a generous engineer out there provided me with a pdf copy today, of the service manual HP 03326-90010.

Let’s get started on the remaining items to call this repair complete:

(1) Replace the input cap with a 100n X7R, 100 Voltage rating – so far, only 50 V was in stock, but recently, a package of Kemet brand, mil-spec C430C104M1R5CA arrived, hope these will last!

3326a x7r 100 v c430c104m1r5ca kemet

(2) The over voltage SCR crow-bar circuit (currently with a 1884-0261 installed, 4 Amp rms). Looking at the parts list, this needs to be a 1884-0231, a very rare HP numbered SCR. Apparently, it is a TIP116A, 100 V, 8 Amp rms, 20 mA max. gate trigger current equivalent. So the 4 Amp part currently in there might be a bit too weak.

1884-0231

3326a scr 72048 cr800 1884-0231

The only SCRs around are a 1200 V, 25 Amp, 40 mA max. gate trigger current.

tyn1225 bag

Question – are there any issues to be expected, when replacing a 20 mA max. gate current, with a 40 mA gate current part? Well, there could be. After a more careful look at the TYN1225 datasheet, there is some hope that it could work. 4 to 40 mA, that’s a large range. Maybe the part will trigger already at much lower current, given that I don’t intend to operate the instrument at very low temperatures, below freezing, where the SCR gate trigger current typically increases.

tyn1225 gate current

After a quick test with a power supply, a resistor, and a current source – the particular TYN1225 which I randomly picked from the bag triggers at about 4.5 mA. All should be fine.

3326a overvolt circuit

Note that the SCR is triggered via the Q800 transistor (which has been checked and found OK), and this circuit could supply well over 30 mA to the gate, if needed… also, there is connection via the mother board, so the over-voltage circuit will only work when the power supply assembly is mounted in the 3326A. Otherwise, the gate trigger will be open circuit.

03326-66570 tyn1225

… with the SCR soldered in, the 3326A repair is now complete!

HP 8569B (8565A) Spectrum Analyzer: curing the knob disease

Having seen quite a few of the 8569A, 8569B, and 8565A analyzers in the shop recently, once common issue are the controls. The 3-knob operation is one of the features that makes these long-established machines still desirable for today’s work, in particular, for general test and troubleshooting in the microwave region, up to 22 GHz, and above. At the same time, these knobs were made of plastic, and they age – most of they show cracks, which will sooner or later require difficult repair. In the current case, I am dealing with the unit described earlier, it is a 8569B, and someone had fit a 8565A control pad – all of the knobs more or less cracked and useless – I might use their remains to fix upcoming instruments.

So, what do to? Well, decided to go for a rigorous approach, and provide completely new knobs. These use a coaxial design, with 1/4″ outer shaft, and 1/8″ inner shaft. For the small controls, just ordered a few Augat/Alco knobs, which are quite sturdy and easy to mount.

8569b augat alco knob

The large knobs, I custom machined back home in the main workshop, using my little CNC lathe (kind of an overkill) – they are made from POM/Delrin plastic, with some brass inserts, and 4-40 set screws. The knobs are knurled at the outside – one turned out a bit black, because I didn’t clean the tool properly… fair enough.

8569b large knobs

The only downside – there are no markings on the knobs, like for the originals, but such markings aren’t really needed for the 8569B which has a full on-screen display of all settings. Also the ‘lock’ positions for coupled BW-Span still works!

8569b new knobs detail

8569b new knobs mounted

All in all, I’m pretty happy with this repair, estimated useful life of the new knobs – 30 years, and replacements can be made, as we go. But maybe, by then, the unit might be really obsolete, although that’s the thing I am least sure about!

HP 3326A Two Channel Synthesizer: a engineering mystery, and a fuse mystery

…coming back to the 3326A repair, a slight mystery remains – at one time in the past the over-voltage protection circuit must have been triggered, destroying not only the SCR, but also damaging some quite large traces on the board. Typically, the SCR is just switched on for a few milliseconds, before the mains fuse will blow, with no damage of any trace. Typically, these HP devices are well engineered, so there is only a small chance that they didn’t design the system right, to the extend that power would be provided to the board for any length of time even with the over voltage protection circuit triggered.

3326a over volt protection hot trace

Now, the 3326A has passed a 24 hour run-in and multiple power cycles, time for the final safety check which I perform on any instrument repaired, like, checking the ground resistance, checking the isolation resistance, checking the mains fuse rating, etc.

THE FUSE. SOMEONE MUST HAVE BEEN FULLY CRAZY, AND PUT IN A 20 AMP FUSE!!!

3326a fuse 20 amp
That’s why the over voltage circuit didn’t work, and presented a fair risk of fire and instrument damage, of an instrument, sold at over USD 10k, 1990 dollars.

The fuse rating – 3 Amp, normal blow.
3326a fuse rating

And a big warning sign, hard to overlook.
3326a fuse warning

But what is a normal blow fuse? In the US, fuses are actually rated by the manufacturers, and standardization is well above the level of fusing time, etc. – two types are typically sold, ‘Slow Blow’, and ‘Fast Acting’. Slow blow fuses are easily idenfied, they either have the wire wound around a ceramic core, or are filled with sand.

Found this document, related to ‘normal blow’ – as it turns out, these fuses are actually identical in rating to the typcial ‘Fast Acting’ fuses that I have in stock here.
normal blow fuse

agc fuse
Well, there might still be some tiny difference of the original, HP branded ‘normal blow’ fuse, but test shows that a regular 3 Amp AGC ‘Fast Acting’ fuse is working perfectly find. So for the time being, we can just consider ‘Normal Blow’ and ‘Fast Acting’ fuses to be identical. How easy would be the world, if all things were build according to common, well-established standards. At least, for the fuses.

HPAK (HP Agilent Keysight) 3326A Two Channel Synthesizer: power supply trouble

Should you ever send in any instruments for repair, please ensure it is properly packaged!
3326a packaging
This defective 3326A dual channel synthesizer arrived with no major transport damage, but only due to luck, not due to proper packaging.

First, let’s open up the top panel, and have a look inside. There are two complete synthesizers in the box, similar to the massively popular 3325A design. The synthesizers can be combined, for various two-tone operation modes, phase-shift and PWR modes, two-tone sweep sources, etc. This makes the 3326A a very hand instrument to test all kinds of mixers, receivers, amplifiers.

3326a top view

The outputs are extremely precisely frequency settable, down to 10-6 Hz in the kHz region, and 10-3 in the MHz region… that’s 1 part in 10+9, so you can simulate small oscillator drifts – the frequency stability of the current unit is excellent, it features an option 001 OCXO, +-10-7 per months drift.
The 3326A is also great sources for modulated signals, having all kinds of internal and external modulation sources, including phase modulation. This makes it very useful for PLL characterization, phase detector characterization, or similar tasks.

Well, in priciple. The current unit arrived in dead condition. Plugged it in – a bit of smoke, and bad smell, that’s it.
The faulty assembly: the 03326-66570 power supply.
Another issue: No service manual!!! There are 100s of HP service manuals around, but none of the 3326A!!! Very disappointing – if you have one, PLEASE LET ME KNOW! Your help will be highly appreciated!

3326a  03326-66570 pwr supply

Someone must have tried to fix it before, because a few parts are missing – a screw, attaching the capacitors to the case, and a SCR (aka, thyristor), of the over-voltage protection circuit, CR800.

First fix – the ‘smoking’ capacitor, C706. A 100 nF ceramic cap, at the input of the rectifier – actually, running with about 50 V AC, and a cap, rated at 50 Volts… no idea why HP was doing this – typically, they employ a large safety margin, when designing the circuits. Not it this case, and not to the benefit of reliability.

3326a pwr supply c706 defect

Unfortunately, the cap heated up the traces, and damaged the board – so I removed to loose traces, cleaned it up, and soldered the a replacement cap to the bottom of the board.

The protection circuit – the board was missing the CR800 SCR when received – I can’t find anything wrong with the voltage sense circuits, formed around two LM339 comparators. But there are burnt traces that show that high current must have been flowing throught the SCR at some occasion in the past, possibly due to an over-voltage condition on some of the rails. And the former owner of the device didn’t bother to put a new SCR back in.

3326a over voltage protection 1884-0261 scr

Fair enough, put a spare 1884-0261 back in, a 100 V, 4 Amp on-state RMS current. Will replace it later, either once I found out the original part number from the service manual, or once I get hold of a 100 V, 16+ Amp, TO220 device (which rest back in the main workshop, in Germany, while I have to get the 3326A going here at the US East Coast).

While inspecting the power supply, also noticed that the J101 connector – the main connector to the transformer – had several bad solder joints, seems the plating has come off the pins, making bad contact, even leading to head being generated. Resoldered the pins with big blobs of solder, not my usual style, but should work fine here to distribute the current more evenly.
3326a pwr j101 connector soldered

Now, the moment of truth…. switched it on, and, all rails are up (you can use the little jumper on the board to operate the supply outside the slot – don’t destroy your instrument by putting back in an untested power supply assembly!).
3326a test
…it works! Seems we have won, and still some years to go before this instrument will turn into a paperweight, or, well, a doorstop.

As usual after repair, now, running it for a few hours, switching it on and off a few times – checking the stabilty of the output. Not so good news. Sometimes, instabilities show up, and after a few power cycles, it doesn’t come on any more. Then, it comes on again – an intermittent fault! Never good!
Good advice, in case of intermittent faults – let them develop into permanent faults, and in this case, watch the ‘power good’ LEDs of the various rails.

After a bit of probing, knocking, knocking, pushing – found the issue to reside with the 5 V rail. Even without the service manual, a few tests of the voltage regulator shows that the regulator working, what is not working, is the series pass transistor, a HP 1854-0618. This is a re-branded Motorola MJ3000.

3326a 1854-0618 transistor 5 volt rail

3326a mj3000 transistor

A dead transistor that has intermittent function, very strange. Look at the way it is mounted – using a pcb-mount TO-3 socket. Let’s remove the transistor, and check it out…

3326a to-3 contact

3326a transistor oxidized pin

Now, things are clear – the 5 V rail is quite high current, and the pin-socket combination (for the emitter pin) just isn’t made for it, well, at least not after 30 years of service, oxidation, and so on. One day, it must have heated up quite a bit, judging from the state of the contact. No way to fix this by just cleaning it up – the contact is all soft, and won’t provide a low resistance path. So, I removed it alltogether, and soldered in the pin, using some tin plated copper wire.

3326a to-3 print mount

Also noticed some discoloration of the via at the emitter pin – the heat caused some damaged, but not too much, and also here, added a large blob of solder, to ensure good contact both sides of the via.

Talking about the obvious engineering weaknesses of the power supply, also some good things – it actually has several protection circuits, all rails are protected by heavy Zeners (which will short when overloaded), plus the active monitoring-SCR circuit.

3326a power supply monitor

For the 5 V rail, even the current is monitored, by this rather fancy shunt.

3326a pwr supply shunt 5 v rail

Gave it another few hours of run-in, and numberous power cycles, still, all is working just fine.

Now, check out what it can do:
3326a working

3326a 10 khz xy

HPAK (HP Agilent Keysight) 6205C Dual DC Power Supply: a mechanical fix

Today, a package arrived, containing, a defective 6205C dual power supply. This model is capable of 0-20 V, at 0.6 Amps, or 0-40 V, at 0.3 Amps.

6205c front

The ranges, as well as the meter indications (V or A, x1 or x10 scale) are selectable by two groups of pushbutton switches, and someone figured out earlier that the switches for the V2 output are defective….

6205c bad switches

… well, not quite. The switches work, but they don’t stay pushed in. A mechanical failure?

6205c top view

Fortunately, it is quite clear what had happened. Someone dropped the instrument, and the front panel was hit – bending it inwards, reducing the gap from the switches to the circuit board. With insufficient room to work, the switches appear inoperative.

6205c panel

To fix this, no soldering iron is needed, just a hammer, and a piece of wood, to get the front panel back in shape and aligned.

6205c tools

6205c connectors

The front terminals are a bit damaged, but they work, and I will have a look around for a few spares (these are 1510-0091 binding post – let me know, if you have one around), or try to fix them by some custom-made red plastic inserts – this will have to wait for the next winter!

HP 8566B (85662A) Spectrum Analyzer: fixing the 10 Hz issue, A4A7 3 MHz filter assy

The 8566B/8568B analyzer both use the 85662A spectrum analyzer display section, which is not just a display but also takes care of the IF processing. For the 10 Hz to 1 kHz bandwidths, a 5 pole xtal filter is used. A rather delicate assembly that dates back the the earlier analyzers, 8565A, in somewhat modified form. As a side note, HP had a strong tendency to utilized time proven circuits, some of them, over periods of 20 to 30 years… it helps with the repairs, once you get used to a certain assembly, the same pattern is repeating in multiple instruments. One of the examples it the A4A7 assembly of the 85662A (p/n 85662-60004). It is a rather ingenious design, and is critical for the 10 Hz resolution which makes the 8566B/8566B units so useful to resolve close-in spurs, like mains spurs.

The unit currently on my bench showed issues in the 10 Hz bandwidth – not enough gain. First, I assumed it to be an alignment issue, and spent quite a while re-adjusting the circuit. To no avail (well, it helped to improve the passband shape, which is now perfectly symmetrical again).
Almost wanted to give up. But not quite.

Checked the gain of the A4A7 with one of the stages, at a time, bypassed by a substitution circuit, a 47 n capacitor, in series with a 2.8 ohms resistor (see earlier entry). And, quite surprisingly, the gain of the 10 Hz bandwidth increased dramatically when shorting the 5th of the xtal poles.

8566b peaking cap

After careful inspection, notice the peaking cap. It is at its lowest value – this might be the issue – each of the poles has at least 3 adjustments: center, symmetry, peaking, and 2 of the poles, also a gain adjustment…. Maybe, the 5th stage (which is working at all the other bandwidths), is just not set to peak!!

85662-60004 a4a7 assy 5th pole

The 68 p capacitor, it is a factory selected component, and 68-82 p is the allowable range. This assembly had a 82 p fitted, but only at the 5th stage… well, just a few pF too much.

Where to get a 68 p cap (a silver mica…) now, one big ocean away from the well-assorted stock back home in the main workshop? Well, always good to have some old, spare HP boards at hand:
8566b scrap board
…one of them now is missing a 68 p cap….

After some re-tuning, running the calibration routine, look at the result, before and after:
8566b corr coeff before and after repair
…there are the missing 2 dB. Problem solved!

HP 8566B Spectrum Analyzer: YTO/YTX tuning, flatness adjustment, and an OCXO

The 8566B I am dealing with here as parts from at least three units, so no wonder that the YTO/YTX drivers are all completely out of adjustment. So much that the LO sometimes locks on an incorrect multiple of the reference, or that it doesn’t lock at all.

Well, the adjustments are all well described in the manuals, rather straightforward.

8566b corr coeff
The amplitude offset at 10 Hz, a bit more than I want it to be, but this is related to the A4A7 assy of the 85662A, not to the 8566B itself.

8568b flatness adjusted
Might still tweak it a little bit, when all repairs are complete, but for now, a quite satisfactory result.

The OCXO, it is mounted in a set of 3 rubber isolators, here are the rough dimensions, if you want to fit a custom OCXO….
0960-0477-1 osc 49-61c dimensions

8566b 0960-0477-1 osc 49-61C 10 mhz ocxo

From the service manual – there are at least two versions of the 8566B, one using the HP 10811, and the other, using an Ovenaire OSC 49-61C.
8566b a22 assy ocxo

As far as I know, the oscillators have more or less the same performance level, but the connectors on the motherboard are different (still carrying the same voltages – the 10811 has small add-on regular board, 5062-1909), and there may be also differences in the holding brackets.
5062-1909 10811-60111 board
Notice the different plug! I have a spare 8568B motherboard around that supports this connector style.

One of the many test results, the 22 GHz noise floor.
8566b baseline noise 22 ghz

Not bad at all, about -118 dBm. Also checked the power line spurs and the noise characteristics, all considerably better than specified.
The only downside: total weight, of the 8568B: 112 lbs, and two strong fans.

HP 8566B Spectrum Analyzer: 2 partial units and some spare parts

This story starts with a set of rather valuable 8566B parts that I received for free a litte while ago:
8566b spare parts

A partial unit, stripped of of most of its RF parts, and missing some boards, and missing the OCXO.
8566b partial unit1

For a long time, I have been looking for another partial unit that can provide the missing boards, the OCXO, and some bits of hardware to complete the instrument. Not worried about the 85662A display units, because I have a perfectly working spare unit around, or could use the unit of the 8568B.
Finally, a unit showed up, also missing some boards and parts, but luckily, not the boards that I needed -except, also no attenuator, and no OCXO here.
8566b partial unit 2
8566b partial unit2

That’s the start, the empty space that is going to hold the RF treasures:
8566b empty space

The YTO assy, missing the YTO, and other bits.
8566b yto loop incomplete

This part, the 5086-7226, to do it fully justice, one would have to talk about it for a few hours. It is a not only gold plated inside and out, but HP used two kinds of solds, of different melting point, to assemble the inner workings in subsequent steps, without melting the already assembled parts….
8566b 5086-7226 YTF

Some more pictures – the YTF driver.
8566b ytf driver front
8566b yig driver back

The 1st and 2nd converter assy, ready for the semi rigid lines to be attached.
8566b 1st and 2nd converter

A high quality input relais and a band pass filter.
8566b input relais and bp filter

Well, unfortunatly, don’t have a spare 8566B/8568B OCXO around, and they go on xbay for no less then USD 50, often, no less then USD 100, that’s ridiculous.
May this unit, which is very low phase noise, very stable, from a HP 3585A analyzer, can be made fit? Ovenaire OSC 73-52.
8566b spare ocxo 0960-0465 ovenaire osc 73-52 10 mhz

After a LOT of fiddly work:
8568b assembly progress

8568b testing

A first signal!! Amazing! Frequency is off by 80/300 MHz – the unit will need a proper alignment, but the PLLs are all locked, which is a great start.
8566b a signal

And, the noise – the effect of harmonic mixing can be clearly seen, so the input stage and mixers seem to be all working!
8566b noise

More to come!